Terry information like this is something I find interesting but if you put this in a book will it have wider appeal? You write very well BTW. I am just currious what is the target demographic for your book?
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Where did Pastor Russell get his TRUTH?
by Terry inmost jehovah's witnesses are aware there once lived a man named russell and he had something to do with the early years of their religion.. but, generally, interest in the early days is almost non-existent.
after all, nobody was running around calling themselves jehovah's witnesses, so what difference does any of that really make?.
russell and the origins of jw doctrines are, as a result of this total black out of curiousity, hidden and permanently obscured.. in fact, the only time charles taze russell is discussed is because some expose' by an apostate has raised a stink.. admitedly, most anti-jw books seek to dredge up scandals, lawsuits, accusations and failed predictions swirling around russell's ministry.. in my own opinion, none of that is half as interesting as the missing part of the equation: where from did pastor russell get his truth?.
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DC 2013: last talk
by DeWandelaar ini was at the third day of a dc yesterday and in the last speech the brother who gave the talk said something like this in just one sentence:.
"we now understand that the faithfull slave is the governing body, not a the whole class of annointed, but the brothers in hq are the faithfull slave".
i was absolutely surprised by the fact that he just told it "straight out" and not in cryptical craptalk.
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Bobcat I remember the language used in the old year books entitled "Acts of Jehovah's Witnesses in the 20th Century" I remember thinking their trying to subtally equate these witings to the book of Acts. LOL
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HELP NEEDED for the book I'm writing!
by Terry ini'm about 90% finished on a book i started nine years ago.
it will deal with jehovah's witness policy on conscientious objectors during war time.
from the 1800's through the end of the draft in the early 1970's.. i am also giving a personal biographical account of my own introduction to the religion, process of assimilation and ministry experience.. additionally, i'm working in timelines connecting the 2nd adventist teachings with russell, rutherford and mainstream watchtower doctrines.. .
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Terry if you want your book to sell to the public in general the three things that I think need to be stressed for the widest appeal are
No.1 How the witnesses divide everybody they come in contact with by trapping them in a web of lies. Think of your own case if you had went to Vietnam you would have been DFed. I was cut off from my familly for asking questions about science. So many of the other stories on this site so many examples.
No.2 Their hatred of higher education and the wasted lives that result. There hatred of informed opposition opostates and the internet.
No.3 The intelectual dishonesty of "new light" how they rewrite doctrine and how they comfort those trapped in the rank and file.
But I suppose you are probably thinking along the same lines. Try to refrain from being too esoteric as this book won't be widely read by the witnesse themselves.
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Happiness/unhappiness
by lostinthought ini was told by a family member the other day "if you want to leave jehovah, go ahead.
but don't think you'll ever be happy.
all the people i know who have left got burned by the world and they come back to the truth".
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I was disfellowshipped in 1985 for asking questions of a scientific nature.
I was born into this cult. It was a tough go at first but I had youth on my side. I did lose my whole familly though. Parents, grandparents on both sides, siblings, et al. Those years were pre internet a very lonely time. It was hard to explain to my friends and especially my then girlfriend who is now my wife and her familly why my own parents would'nt come to my wedding. I think they had all heard about the witnesses but I don't know if they recognized it as a cult that divdes the familly the way they do.
Anyway I moved on and 27 years later life is pretty good all it takes is hard work. I have got two beautifull daughters with university degrees. I made sure that they did'nt grow up in a cult like this. Getting disfellowshipped, for me at least, was the best thing that ever happened. I am not a bitter apostate at all. In fact I know there are lots of older dubs out there who are trapped in this cult. I feel sorry for them. I am over 50 now I couldnt imagine waking up at this age to TATT now after spending your whole life in.
I would rather be drenched in honey and tied to a killer bee hive than go back but that might just be the mentally diseased part of my brain talking. Cults like the Catholics and the dubs are losing members especially in the developed world mostly because of the internet they just can't spin their lies lies anymore because it is so easy to chech them out.
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The Mermaid Goes to the District Convention and this is what She Hears
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I think more of Pink Floyd, Mother.
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Protecting pedophiles while protecting children
by stillin ini know that a lynch mob forms whenever there's a hint of anybody being a pedophile, but the truth is that not all are the slavering, predatorial animals that they are painted to be.
each circumstance has its' own specifics.
in defense of the wts, they do keep track of confirmed pedophiles now.
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Stillin I would like you to tell me why the WBT$ is appealing the Conti Case? Could it be "that an outright addmision of guilt would have the wolves at there back"? Maybe thats would should happen, wolves got to eat too!
I know they would council anyone in thier organization to admit thier serious sin and beg Jehovah's forgiveness. Doesn't it seem that as an organization finally dealing with pedofilia in their ranks that they should be held to their own standards collectively as they would hold an individual?
When they disfellowship someone rightly or wrongly and announce it from the platform are they not putting the wolf at the backs of individualls?
I just don't know what else to ask ?
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Protecting pedophiles while protecting children
by stillin ini know that a lynch mob forms whenever there's a hint of anybody being a pedophile, but the truth is that not all are the slavering, predatorial animals that they are painted to be.
each circumstance has its' own specifics.
in defense of the wts, they do keep track of confirmed pedophiles now.
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So if watchtower is "really addressing the thing" why are they appealing the Conti case? Why wouldnt they just admitt mistakes were made and pay up? They can afford it. Or was there some gross miscarriage justice that occured?
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When "The Persecution" Comes - What a Let Down that turned out to be!
by cofty inwhen i was young there was endless speculation about "the persecution".
i have very clear memories as a child sitting in the old kingdom hall in coatbridge hearing it talked about from the platform.
it was a frequent topic at home.. sometimes there was lurid detail about what sort of torture "they" might use against us to make us betray others.
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There must be an article in the awake or watctower teaching this nonsense I heard the exact same things when I was a kid.
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Protecting pedophiles while protecting children
by stillin ini know that a lynch mob forms whenever there's a hint of anybody being a pedophile, but the truth is that not all are the slavering, predatorial animals that they are painted to be.
each circumstance has its' own specifics.
in defense of the wts, they do keep track of confirmed pedophiles now.
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Lynch mob. What do you expect when you post a defence of the watchtower's pedofile friendly polocies? I hope that more lawyers will come forward and sue watchtower. I don't think many courts will see it as jumping on the bandwagon motivated by blind hatred.
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Protecting pedophiles while protecting children
by stillin ini know that a lynch mob forms whenever there's a hint of anybody being a pedophile, but the truth is that not all are the slavering, predatorial animals that they are painted to be.
each circumstance has its' own specifics.
in defense of the wts, they do keep track of confirmed pedophiles now.
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I think where the credit is due is to lawyers who sue cults like this one. The org will and always will be Pedo friendly. Watctower can't help it.